Because of our goal of bringing you affordable equipment that works, we are always interested in your feedback, both positive and negative. So feel free to drop us a line. We will always be looking for ways to tweak and improve our products.
Because of our goal of bringing you affordable equipment that works, we are always interested in your feedback, both positive and negative. So feel free to drop us a line. We will always be looking for ways to tweak and improve our products.
Hey y’all, I’ve been following this little project of y’all’s, and must say I’m very interested, and probably will order one of y’all’s stocks. But I have one question: When you say it’s compatible with AK magazines, does that mean it has a conversion built in to accept them, or is just compatible with SKS-M and SKS-D models?
@Josh in Afghanistan, if your SKS is designed to take AK magazines, our bullpup stock will work with AK magazines.
Looks like a winner. A list of rifles you have confirmed it will work on would be great. I sold the one sks I had because of the poor options out there for accessories. I’m going to start shopping for one now and that list would help alot. Thanks
@Kevin Florey, we have installed it on a Russian, Yugo, Romanian and Chinese. It is our belief that if it is an SKS, our bullpup stock is compatible.
Well guys Im hooked–all the way.
Whowaa
My fav. weapon is the sks hands down.
Vid looked good.
i AM AN AVERAGE JOE WITH 13 YRS IN THE INF.
I do not care if your website is polished up to 21st standards or not.
I only want the product to work as good as the vid and your word says.
Looking forward to upgrading my sks into the 21st century.
I use 20 rd detach mags as fixed mags so that i can load from the top
will it be as easy to load 2 10 rd clips as it is 1 10 rd clip?
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN PROTECTING OUR 2nd AMEND. RIGHTS
@Josh in Afghanistan, what we mean is, if your SKS will take AK magazines, it will still take AK magazines once our bullpup kit is installed. If your SKS does not take AK magazines and you want to use detachable magazines, you will need to use SKS detachable magazines, which can be used with our bullpup stock kit. Thank you for your service to our country. We appreciate it.
@glaros, Your support is appreciated, and I thank YOU for supplying us with such a novel method of revitalizing an old rifle.
I only hope I can find an SKS-D or M model to put the stock on.
Thanks for what you guys do.
@john jordan, thank you for your encouragement. To be honest with you, while there are several after market magazines for the SKS that feed the SKS very well, I have yet to find one that can be loaded with stripper clips as easily as the OEM 10-round, steel, box magazine. The only exception to this is the 20-round steel, box magazine made by the Chinese. By the way, thank you for your service to our country. We really appreciate it.
@Kevin Florey, We have installed our kit on a Chinese paratrooper, Russian, Romanian, Yugo 56 as well as a 59/66. It is our belief that if it is an SKS, it will fit. We are working on plans to have it fitted on virtually every SKS model ever made through the owner of SKS boards.
looking forward to the production of this unit, will buy 2 of them when they come out. keep us in the loop.
What do we fill in the blanks on the order page? Its kinda vague.
@Brent, The blanks on our store page are part of our store button. It has no use other than provide information above the blanks. Nothing needs to be filled in there.
Just wondering if we’ll see more videos or maybe a review or two before the 8th. I’d like to preorder but I want to know I’m getting a reliable product also. Thanks guys.
@PrezRR, You probably mean the 5th. To answer your question, since we are running behind in getting an installation video as well as close-up pics on the site, we will be extending the special offer. We will post the new information under news shortly. We also have some reviews planned as soon as we are in a position to make that happen.
@glaros, Thanks for the info, and thanks for extending the offer for awhile longer. I understand how it is with a new product and how you want to get it right and get the bugs out before your customers get the product. I’m looking forward to new pictures and video. Thanks again.
It is very exciting to see your product, especially considering how important compliance with 922r bologna is. I do think with the addition of your U.S. trigger and by taking off the yugo granade launcher and fitting it with U.S. made muzzle break, gas rod etc., that your system would be a fun and affordable way to be compliant, as well as improve the looks and tactical aspects of the gun. My concern would be that it looks like a field strip and cleaning might become very laborious. Don’t get me wrong I don’t know how easy or difficult assembly and disassembly is, but it sure would be nice to see a video on it. (also it would be cool to see a tapco 20 round mag, which I believe adds another couple compliance points)
@doug, Our bullpup stock is designed to easily remove the upper hand guard and the receiver cover assembly, giving you access to the entire upper of the rifle ie; the gas piston and receiver. Very soon we will be posting a video showing our bullpup stock utilizing AK and Tapco 20 round SKS magazines.
Your product looks promising but I am wondering about your warranty. I don’t see anything listed on your web site about it. Also what about sling attachments? I’m willing to purchase up front now but would like to know the above answers first.
@Mike Osborn, Please see “Terms of Service” at the bottom of our Home Page regarding our warranty. We are woking on two different types of rear sling attachments. The stock is made to utilize the existing SKS sling-point at the gas block.
I have been watching these comments and am pretty excited about this product. However, as much as I would like to get on board and take advantage of the discount offered. I am not ultimately seeing the information that most of us want to see.
On 7/7 we were promised close-up photos of assembly, and gallery shots of assembly in two weeks (ie 7/21)
On 7/13 you were a week and a half away from having an a final prototype to make an assembly video and a video “to show more features. i.e. Safety manipulation, with different config mags, etc. A technical overview”
Here we are now, 6 days from the end of the introductory pricing ending without any additional photos or videos, and no real updates on when we can expect to see them.
I would really like to help you by making a pre-order, but if I don’t have peace of mind about the construction/feasibility/ and final configuration, then I am not willing to risk my money.
Even if we were not able to get photos and videos before 8/05 because of improvements made to the prototype causing delays, or something like that, then at least improve communication to let us know what is going on if there are delays. I have read many concerns over the lack of adequate communication.
I am sure many of us are waiting until the last possible moment to purchase this stock at the introductory pricing, because we are hoping to get enough information to make an informed decision. And if we do not get this information, we will be waiting until the end of September when you have an actual product shipping.
I know I want to help you to avoid bringing in outside investors if I can, but unless these concerns are addressed, I (and probably many others) will be uncomfortable turning our money over for something that leaves us with many questions unanswered.
@strong_bad, Yes, you are right, we are running behind. We make plans of what we are going to do based on commitments we get from others. As we have not been able to obtain what we need to provide the close-up pics and installation video, we are going to extend the introductory offer. We will be posting an update under “news” on the Home Page.
How about extending hyour introductory offer at least until you post some information/instructions regarding installation?
@Mike, we will be extending the introductory offer. We will be posting an update under “news†on the Home Page.
I can tell it has been a fast and furious first month for you. There is a lot of interest in your product, so stick with it.
Can you provide any update on the promised installation video? Have you gotten your final prototype yet?
Good luck!
@Corbin, we expect to have any day now, what we need in order to post close-up pics and that promised installation video. Thank you for your encouragement.
I am an owner of a russian sks that still has all of its trimmings (bayonet lug, matched parts, original iron sights, etc.). I am mostly concerned about what level of modification is required to use your stock, even though you say the only required modification is removal of the rear sight leaf. I have a lot of questions about this product, not sure I will get them all in here but I hope you can answer them.
1. Will the stock be fitted with iron sights/provision for attachement of iron sights? I read somewhere on here that you have flip up iron sights on your prototype, and would be interested to know where they are located.
2. Is there any mechanism to prevent firing of the rifle if the shell deflector plate has been left up/open?
3. Have you tested the sight mount performance at range (100 yd, 200 yd, more)? If so what level of accuracy have you obtained with this stock and magnifying sights/scopes?
4. I assume that the upper hand guard you speak of removing for cleaning includes the sight mounting rail. Does the attached sighting device return to zero after repeated removal and reattachement of the upper hand guard (assuming this includes the sight rail) to the rest of the rifle?
5. Would I be able to use the original dust cover, and without modification of the dust cover retaining pin?
6. Would I be able to use the original gas tube assembly with wooden handguard, or do I need some other gas tube?
7. Can the original 10 round fixed magazine latch be used with your stock installed to open and empty the original 10 round fixed magazine (i.e., is the gun as easily unloaded with the new stock as it is with the original)?
That’s all I can think of for the moment. May come back more with later. Look forward to hearing from you.
@Heinrich,
1. It does not come with iron sights. We have flip up iron sights located on the front and rear of the sight rail, with an optic in the middle.
2. There is no mechanism to prevent firing of the rifle if the shell deflector plate has been left up/open. In order to do that, it would make the stock so much more complex and we doubt there would be a market for it.
3. We have not done any kind of performance testing. Originally our plan was to do that as soon as we get our first article run of ejection molded parts. (Which are much more rigid than prototypes) However, we may go ahead and do some performance testing just to see what it does.
4. Removing the upper hand guard does include the sight rail. We haven’t done any type of accuracy testing yet, but we do know that our rifle still shoots accurately with our red dot after re-installing the hand-guard.
5. Yes, you will still need to use your original dust cover. On our prototype, which is on a Yugo, I purchased a used Chinese dust cover, filed it down to fit and machine screwed the bullpup cover to the original dust cover. To remove the cover, all you do is rotate the retaining latch and the entire rear top end comes off for easy and quick access. If you don’t use this method, the bullpup rear cover will be held on by one machine screw in the very back.
6. We use the original gas tube, but removed the wooden hand guard as one of the four (4) regulated parts that need to be removed to make it compliant with Sec. 922.
7. Yes, the original 10 round fixed magazine latch be used with your stock installed to open and empty the original 10 round fixed magazine (i.e., is the gun as easily unloaded with the new stock as it is with the original)?
I am very interested in you product. I think you guys need a photo gallery ASAP so we can see what the product is looking like, inside and out. Id love to preorder, but cant feel comfortable doing it without pictures, also some info on materials used would help. Looks very promising.
@Dan, You are right. We have been planning on posting a photo gallery of close up pics. We are still waiting on our final prototype. We are expecting it any day now. As soon as we get it we are going to have a lay out of all the parts that come with the kit, and other misc. close ups as well as an installation video Thanks for your patience.
Look cool, but is it accurate? I didn’t see any targets hit. As for the small size my Glock is more impressive.
@Bob, It sure feels like it is. We haven’t done any accuracy testing, yet. The kit does not clamp onto the barrel in any way. The main housing attaches to the barreled receiver the same way a issued stock does. The barrel basically free floats in the stock kit. Soon we plan on doing an accuracy comparison test using the same SKS with both the issue stock and our bullpup kit.
This is the most exciting after-market product I’ve seen for the SKS in a while. That being said, I’m left handed and from the video it looks like it is not possible to shoot from the left side since the bolt handle moves far enough to the rear to hit oneself in the chin. Also, does the case deflector redirect the empty brass forward enough of the action so that it won’t hit a lefty shooter? I may have to learn how to shoot right handed!
@John, we don’t have time right now but as soon as we can, we have some ideas to make our bullpup kit accessible to left handers. We believe the brass ejects horizontally in a perpendicular direction from the ejection port.
Hi
I love the design of the stock. The video was very Impressive. Its only thing close to the aug I can come.
I always loved the design as a kid and still do know.
So thanks for making this awsome stock and can wait to buy one. thanks again.
Jay
Let me know when you post a video or pics of your bullpup stock utilizing the Tapco 20 round SKS mag please.
@aldaddyoo7, plans are right now to make a video using detachable magazines this coming week.
I would get one of your stocks if I could find a decent SKS in my area.
I think that if this goes well, you should design a better bullpup stock for the AK’s.
@egs89, one of the best functioning and accurate SKS’s I own is an old beat up Romanian that was sold in NRA “good” condition. The more beat they are the less expensive they are. SKS’s were really over built-they hold up to a lot of abuse.
great news about the lowering of the rail for the optic sight! keep it up guys
can’t wait to bring it to the range –
then you’ll sell another 100 of them once somebody see me!!
@Wartorn, looking forward to it!
@adam, We noticed some comments weren’t answered, sorry it took so long to discover this question. We have installed it on both of those as well as a Russian and Romanian. We believe that if it is an SKS, it will fit.
Hi, looks good so far i have most of the same concerns as the previous folks but may order anyway to get in the que. my main reason for the e-mail is to encourage you to do a 10-22 version after you get out of the wood on this one. the muzzelite is about the same price as yours and it’s junk.
bob
@bob byram,
If you’re interested in a 1022 version, I have one in short runs of production right now. I am a member of http://www.rimfirecentral.com. Here is my post: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286787
Let me know what you think. You can send me a message if you are interested and I will email you back. It’s not as inexpensive as the Muzzelite but it’s also not as cheap as the Muzzelite if you know what I mean.
How are things progressing? I know I am waiting anxiously for an update on the status as well as for new photos.
Ready to buy one as soon as I see the progress…
Nice new prototype. I am glad you are listening to this forum. Top rail is better than the old design. the lower front pic rail is nice, but could it be a little more flush to the forend, so that those not adding a grip have a usable forend? That one, even with a standard or ladder type rail cover doesn’t seem operator friendly. It is nice to see the 30 rounders have enough room tip rock in. I was concerned about that.
I hope the vertical foregrip isn’t included. Too many options out there. Same goes for the sights, I would imagine.
As for the cover not disabling firing, some common sense has to be present to use firearms. Otherwise barrels would have to be too long to point at one’s self and still reach the trigger…
BTW, follow up comments check box is duplicated again…
@Bret Schlueter, I forgot to add that you should consider threaded hard points to screw rails to the sides of the forend for lights, lasers and the like, since the bottom rail is so short.
what exactly is included (for those who bought it before 8-5)in what we shall recive?
Any news on the installation video it has been a couple weeks just curious thanks
Hi, I just checked out the latest u-tube vidio and am even more impressed. This prompted me to want to know more about the status of the production program so I called headquarters in Calif. and talked to a very helpfull woman (maybe your wife?). This is the impression I got from the call. (for info to the others who are wondering the same)
The design work is in the hands of contractor and is due right away. I assume this is the cad models for production. The production will be in China? Initial production is still hoped for end of sept, but the date is questionable. (Glaros, please correct me if I got the wrong impression).
I’m ready to send my money in order to get in the initial production run. I look at this as kind of a “beta” version. I have spent many years in product design and development and my experiance is that changes in the initial design or process will come. usually initial production is subjected to “product validation” testing BEFORE initial shippments begins. It would be helpfull if you could assure that if there are signifigant mods that initial orders will be corrected.
With all that, I’m sending the Paypal pmt.
Good luck with the venture.
Bob
i was all for this until i read this – production in china, huh? whats wrong with manufacturing it here in the united states? well if its made in china you better hire some illegals to distribute.
@tyler,
Don’t really know where this rumor began, but production of the stock will be done right here in the USA.
I’m curious about the detachable mag thing. I’ve been trying to come up with a good machined bullpup design for my SKS (Chinese Norinco Para Sporter), but because of the fact that the detachable AK mags have to pivot so far forward to release the grip does not work unless it is way too far forward. What have you guys done to overcome that? I can see where the standard style “attached” mags would work fine because they don’t hinge forward. Just curious. It looks like a very good option for “tacticool”. Thanks guys.
I think the SKS is the perfect rifle to bullpup and your price point is right on when compared to the other(s). Yeah, the linkage is the big bullpup issue and I would like to read about the trigger– maybe lbs. added, some subjective, and technical info like other bullpup kits’ sites. Thanks. Good luck.
God Speed , I will keep the Faith .
@tyler,
If you want the stock to cost 3 times as much they could manufacture it here. Personally I’d like a low cost high quality product, which definitely can NOT be accomplished with a “made in america” sticker on it thanks to a little thing we have here called minimum wage.
COL doesn’t enter into it…
I hope these stocks are as nice as they seem. They will sell very well, if so.
Wow I like the new model!
Nice insults, do you have anything intelligent to say? No? Then SHUTUP!
Minimum wage artificially inflates wages across the board, if you pay an unskilled worker $8/hr you have to pay skilled workers more which exponentially drives up the cost of a product. The government would have you believe that minimum wage has to increase because of inflation, well if they would stop printing money there wouldn’t be inflation and wages wouldn’t have to be raised for it and we could actually competitively manufacture things here in America again. Until then I’ll buy the least expensive quality product I can find and if that means made in China so be it. They make good stuff occasionally, their laser sights are quality for 1/3 the price you’d find in an Amercan made laser because it costs so much to make them here.
And by the way I drive a Jeep and my appliances are Kenmore with “Made In USA” stickers on it which just means I paid too much for them.
Lastly Tyler, only someone who has done nothing with his own life tears others down and they do it so they feel their life has meaning. This product is already off the ground and it will probably be a big success. So either go do something with your life and then you can talk, or go crawl back under that rock you’ve been hiding under and leave us decent people alone ok?
@prezrr, Minimum wage should be viewed as that given job market entry level jobs (teenagers, unskilled immigrant,etc). Our “give-away government” placates the masses by raising this minimum. Skilled labor should make enough to feed themselves and their families.
The reason foreign manufacturing should be discouraged, with regard to firearms, is that the product does nothing towards the 922 regulations. A stock is an item specifically noted in these regs. A Chinese made stock (and handgaurd) work against compliance.
I’ll pay more for “made in the USA”. I like my neighbors, my fellow countrymen. I want them to remain employed. I want manufacturing to remain domestic. I do not want to fund a government bent on our destruction. China funds North Korea. Many forget that China sent weapons into Vietnam to be used against Americans. They are using Wal-Mart and low slave wages to undermine the US. Buy foreign cheap, if you want. With other options, doing so shows your real colors… and they ain’t red, white, and blue.
Buying American means citizens are working, and laws are there to regulate their safety. It means what goes into the product must be safe. There are other reasons, beyond labor costs, which dictate final price.
I hope this bullpup makes it to market, but unless it is manufactured here, I will not buy it. It will not help with 922 compliance, making it a hindrance.
buckmeister
What components from the original SKS are transferred to the bullpup assembly? I want to refinish these pieces with KG Guncoat in advance. Thanks.
Well, I have looked through all of the comments in each of the threads, and the last “comment” I see from “glaros” (of any kind) was from August 15th.
That would mean that in 7 days it will have been a month without any updates on forward progress, reasons for delay in new photos/details, or answers to any of the questions in these forums (yes, there was a very interesting video on 8/21, but nothing else).
In my mind if I am paying for a future product, I am paying with confidence that the future product will be delivered in a timely manner. Timely may mean sticking to the original stated date to some, but I prefer to take a more flexible stance. As long as my confidence is unshaken.
As long as I am informed of a delay and the cause, and am still reassured and confident in the follow-through, I will be patient. I don’t necessarily need to have this very cool product in my hands at the end of September, as I want to be understanding of the difficulties that have been encountered.
I did speak with someone on the phone last week and was informed of an issue with a CAD designer who was dragging his feet and holding the whole process up. That is unfortunate for all involved, and I hope it is resolved quickly.
If this is really causing the delay, then I am still going to be patient, because it would appear there are problems outside of “glaros” control. It would however be VERY reassuring to get some kind of update on the status of everyone’s paid orders.
I am ready to be understanding and sympathetic to “glaros” in whatever situation there is, but it will be very difficult to do so without any additional information to go on.
If another week goes by without any updates or comments of any kind, it will become increasingly difficult to remain patient and understanding. My confidence will have been quite shaken.
I have up to this point been very impressed with the attention given to (future) customer service, and to improvements made to the product. I hope that I will not have to have a change of heart.
when can I buy one? And actually get one? Thanks Barry
I am concerned about the “hump” behind the pistol grip. Is that necessary? It seems that it will reduce the hand weld and cause the hand to be at a less than optimal angle? The rear part of grip should be flush with the stock if possible.
See this thread for an update from “glarosâ€
http://sgworks.com/long-overdue-9-11-09/
Hey guys
It is me again
I replied 23 July 09 when i saw the 1st video that i liked.
Well guess what ????????
I really like the 2nd video just as much.
the 20 and 30 rd mags seem to change out /appear to change out easy enough.
Nice job on the change of the rail system.
I shoot all my weapons with regular sights only.NO scopes for me.
I am to accident prone for fragile stuff like that.
STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO MY 2 STOCKS
Your stock really makes the the sks look like a MEAN UGLY BLACK ASSAULT RIFLE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Keep, up the good work guys.I really am rooting for you
John L Jordan Clover SC
anxiously awaiting release news and user reviews of this. Been a fan of bullpup rifles for years and am constantly frustrated by the inability to find one that is California legal. Even Kel-Tec’s new RFB fails to meet California’s (lengthy vile expletive removed here) regulation. This reconfiguration using the fixed 10-round magazine, along with the recent allowance of SKS’s into the “country”, means I can have my cake and eat it too.
Would you consider offering very reasonably priced “upgrades” also to those who pre-order at the introductory price and wait patiently for the shipment? Typically, there are improvements and modifications necessary to be made to the original product that only come about once a number of them are sold and the feedback returns.
way to go!
will the tri-rail attachment for the forearm be included with the stock?
@jbuntingmachine,
AK mags do work, but we did have to make a pocket in the pistol grip. Just as the forward lower portion of the magazine dips into that pocket, the top will latch and you can swing it back and lock it in. With a little bit of practice, the pistol grip pocket acts somewhat as a magazine guide.
@Starmeister,
Basically we’re just switching stocks. You’ll need everything that’s presently on your SKS, except for the stock, rear leaf sight, and the front sight.
@Doc,
You’re reading our minds. We’re trying to come up with a reasonable compensation for those of you who have been so patient and supportive.